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Discussion of TimberFish Technologies

Marcus: Jere, Thanks for that TimberFish Technologies attachment that explains a lot about your thinking and how this can operate. I wonder several things having perused it:

  1. Bioregional appropriateness - I see that you talk about the North East USA - would this work in Cascadia? How about other bioregions? I do not say it will not, but wonder about the climatic requirements. In my case I am in Finland with a Dfc climate (boreal / subarctic) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Finland you can see the USA climates here: https://earthathome.org/hoe/ne/climate/#:~:text=Nearly%20all%20of%20the%20Northeast,and%20appreciable%20precipitation%20year%2Dround.
  2. The system does seem dependent on other systems which may not be sustainable - i.e. we have dairy feedlot farming, which is dependent on fossil fuels to some extent (I do not say that it cannot be modified, but the dependency should also be modeled (/ accounted for in terms of N, C and other inputs like time and energy).
  3. It seems to me that a silvopastural system might also work: https://www.fs.usda.gov/nac/practices/silvopasture.php and the rotational aspect could be important here for the nitrogen harvesting.
    1. My thoughts then wonder about syntropic agriculture - so we can see if instead of built closed fish tanks we have ponds, this is very much what the monks used to do in monastic times: https://www.kloster-maulbronn.de/en/interesting-amusing/collections/fish-farming (though this rubbish about poor dental care is not credible - tough grain meant well spaced teeth, absence of refined sugar meant less dental decay at this time).
    2. So the syntropism (as we see in the AgroforestDAO on Telegram and the Rooted Society Manifesto) could mean that we do not only have vegetables as the end point, but also we are moving along a climatic succession and restoration of degraded land. Could this work for TimberFish Technologies? If so then we have a regenerative aspect which is quite interesting for reforestation and afforestation.
  4. Elsewhere, I think we can wonder about how this works economically and digitally. The AgroforestDAO is using blockchain technology to help achieve and spread its operations. At the same time Diogo (who leads this) is making sure that what is produced is small scale replicable elements that can scale by increasing the numbers of implementations AND not just being a bigger example / farm / growing operation. I think this replication might work with TimberFish Technologies.
  5. I wonder if TimberFish Technologies can work with the AgroforestDAO ones?? Or others?? In point 2 I mentioned the dependency question - here I raise it at a landscape or ecosystem level. TimberFish Technologies might work with other agricultural approaches e.g. biodynamic farming, permaculture, syntropic agroforestry, organic in the sense that the IFOAM principles accord with - https://www.ifoam.bio/why-organic/shaping-agriculture/four-principles-organic - it would be interesting to see a mapping to show how they interact and complement each other.

Jere you can put my email and comments on these aspects onto the Eco-net wiki.